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>> welcome back to "hispanics today." in the corporate pecking order, we have all heard of the chief executive officer and the chief
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financial officer. but what about the chief privacy officer? believe it or not, such a position does exist, and at toyota, it is at the highest level. and it is held down by a latina who keeps a close guard over the personal information of millions of customers and employees. maybe even yours. >> has anybody had their identity stolen? >> oh, two? >> andrea white drives toyota's efforts to protect data such as the health and financial information and social security numbers of its customers, employees, and business partners. >> we try to help the company create strategy, policy, and training around any kind of gaps and improvements we should be making, >> she says this job was created by pillars of the toyota way, kaizen, which means continuous improvement and respect for people. >> if you want to respect your customer or your associate or
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your franchisee, you will also respect their information. >> i definitely am a human reflection of the toyota way. i am internally motivated to always look for how i can improve what i am doing, where i'm going, how i behave, how i deal with other people. >> andrea was born in the bay area on christmas day to young parents. mom, who spoke broken english and experienced prejudice, raised andrea and her siblings with help from her parents, who fled mexico as teens to become migrant workers. >> it wasn't easy. working in the fields is backbreaking work. it was very much a mexican household. my grandmother made nothing but mexican food. and our celebrations were all very much traditional piñatas and what you might call mariachi music.
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>> approaching her teens, andrea's first visit to a turkey dinner at christmas was life-changing. she thought the whole world ate tamales. >> and i said, why not? what's wrong with you? so it was, you know, a point at which i realized that i was different. they weren't different, i was different. >> so as her loving family focused on survival, andrea tuned in to school and teachers' positive feedback. >> i didn't want to grow up and struggle as much as my grandparents and my parents had to struggle. >> at chatsworth high in los angeles, she starred in the classroom and onstage with her close friend, actress mare winningham, and another kid named kevin fowler. >> a good guy. and very focused. he knew what he wanted to do and he was going there. >> you may have guessed it. kevin fowler then is academy award-winning actor kevin spacey. >> i have complete admiration for him and what he's done.
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>> andrea and kevin starred in the senior play and went to the prom together. she then did a four-year one-woman show, graduating summa cum laude from ucla. >> no one in my family before me on either side had ever gone to college. i put myself through college. i remember at one point, i was working two jobs and carrying a full load at school, and it was very, very challenging. >> her hispanic hard work ethic then got her through law school. >> i was on gratification postponement for a long time. and it was completely worth it. >> for years, she has passionately shared that message, mentoring high school students through todos, the toyota organization for the development of latinos. >> using a kevin fowler reference, it is sort of a "pay it forward" concept. and so my involvement with todos, that's my time to be able to pay it forward. >> in 20 years at toyota as a
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lawyer, high-level executive, and recognized champion for diversity and inclusion, andrea white has learned a lot about hispanics, including herself. >> i did that one myself. [laughter] you need to let people know what a good job you're doing. it's horn-tooting, and hispanics hate to do that. i think we are our own worst enemy. we are not naturally assertive. we are naturally hard workers, but we don't naturally market ourselves. >> so we had andrea try it. >> it was enormously hard work getting to where i am. i am grateful that i am in a position to help my family when they need help. i can't tell you how proud i am that i made it. i got to the goal line. whoo-hoo! and i certainly hope that my grandparents are looking down,
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going, "see, see? we should have gone to california." >> andrea had so much insight into protecting your identity that we couldn't fit it all into the story. but it was so important, we posted it on our website, www.hispanicstoday.com. just click on the consumer info link and you'll find out andrea white's privacy tips. identity theft is a particularly serious problem for the hispanic community, because there are so many common surnames found in the united states. in 2006, the federal trade commission investigated this issue. sabes que? according to the ftc, what percentage of latinos have experienced financial harm because of identity theft? we'll have that answer, coming up. and also just ahead, we'll show you how the legacy of robert f. kennedy lives on, thanks to this hispanic lawyer so moved by rfk that 40 years later, he is still inspired to act for those without a voice. "hispanics today" will be right
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call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800-974-6006 tty/v. >> welcome back to "hispanics today." here's the answer to our sabes que question of the week. two years ago, the federal trade commission investigated the severity of the identity theft problem in the united states. sabes que? the ftc found 26% of hispanics have been victims of financial fraud, much of it through identity theft or mistaken identity. that is twice as high as any other group of americans. in our next story, john trasviña
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got tired of seeing hispanics victimized. not just by identity theft or financial fraud, but by all of the legal perils that lurk in the shadows, especially for newcomers to this country from his ancestral homeland of mexico. he took his wealth of legal experience and put it to work at maldef, the mexican-american legal defense fund, now in its 40th year of advocacy for hispanics. >> john trasviña has one of the toughest jobs today, heading what he calls the law firm of the latino community. >> as president of maldef, i have both the power and the responsibility to speak out on behalf of the community on legal issues, on policy issues, whether it is immigration, education reform, and the future demographics of the nation. >> john is the president and general counsel of the mexican-american legal defense and educational fund, better known as maldef. it's a 24/7 job, advocating for the rights of the latino
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community, whether they are here legally or not. and it is a job he is totally committed to, because he believes everybody has rights. >> maldef has the power in the courts. maldef has the power in legislation, both in congress and at the state and local level, to make a difference. >> john's social activism is deep-rooted, instilled in him since he was a child. >> we grew up around activists and activism. at family outings, we would be going to the anti-war marches in san francisco. during the time of the farm worker marches, the grape boycott in delano and other places, we took part in that. i recall marches with dolores huerta, cesar chavez. major, major events in san francisco. >> born in san francisco, the son of a radio engineer and a bilingual teacher, john witnessed discrimination from an early age, and lived through some defining moments in history. at just eight years old, his mother took him to see senator
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robert kennedy speak. >> it was really a breathtaking event, to see a united states senator. to see someone reaching out to the latino community and all people, standing up for justice. tragically, three days later, right after the victory in the california primary, was the day he was assassinated. that was a real eye-opening event. >> the impact of the moment made him realize he had to get involved and help make this world a better place. he got a government degree at harvard and studied law at stanford university. >> i saw law as the gateway to being able to solve some of the problems that i would see in our community. >> for john, law and public policy can change the balance of power in favor of those who most need help. rather than go work for a
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high-profile law firm, earning top dollar, john began his career at maldef as a legislative attorney, and soon after worked for senator paul simon. >> as a lawyer, you couldn't find a better job. to have a role in overseeing the department of justice, to have a role in the constitutional amendments that come up before the united states senate. and also to have a role in the questioning of the nominees for the united states supreme court. >> in 1997, he became the highest-ranking latino attorney at the u.s. department of justice when bill clinton appointed him to lead the only federal government office devoted to immigrant workplace rights. after leaving his government job, he taught immigration law at stanford before rejoining maldef in november of 2006. why go back? >> there's a different type of power that maldef has. maldef is well-known for its
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40-year history of litigating some of the toughest and biggest cases facing the community. >> dedicated to addressing the needs of the country's growing latino community through litigation, advocacy, and leadership development, maldef has gone to court to guarantee latinos voting rights and access to public education for undocumented children. in recent years, though, immigration has taken center stage, with john taking the fight to the courts and to the airwaves. john feels it is important to set the story straight about latinos and new immigrants. >> our opponents like to say, "oh, well, they've broken in to our country." well, it's like someone breaking in to the house and then deciding to clean up the house, do the dishes, take care of the grandchildren, take care of the elderly. that's what immigrants are doing in our country. >> john also stresses that immigrants aren't just service personnel. many of them are professionals
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filling an employment void in this country. he hopes that through his work at maldef, he'll help pave the way for a better future for latinos. >> this year, for example, the students who enter kindergarten, they are actually the high school graduating class of the year 2020. so our 20/20 vision for those students is that when the year 2020 rolls around, they are going to be in caps and gowns. >> for john, that means fighting against school desertion and promoting college education among latino students. >> so those are the things that drive me to make sure that maldef is prepared to take the latino community into the next decade of the 21st century. >> even though the name maldef stands for mexican-american legal defense fund, the group's mission is considerably broader, and it is not just limited to those of mexican ancestry. you can learn more about the services it offers by going to www.maldef.org.
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>> this sunday, the politics of the economy. have americans lost faith in the president and his party to dig the country out of recession? >> the hole the recession left was huge. the progress has been painfully slow. millions of americans are still looking for work. >> can the white house do anything before november to put people back to work? and who is right in the debate about your taxes?
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i'll explore the president's thinking and go inside the white house's campaign strategy with senior adviser to the president, david axelrod and then nine years after 9/11, what's behind the new wave of anti-muslim sentiment in america? has the president helped or hurt by weighing into controversies about an islamic community center and mosque in lower monta manhattan and a florida's pastor threat to burn a holy koran. we'll talk with rudy giuliani. finally, our political roundtable weighs in on the legacy of the 9/11 attacks, religious tensions in america and the outlook for the midterm race. with us the bestselling author of "no god but god: the origins, evolution and the future of islam" reza aslan. former white house press secretary to president clinton, dee dee myers, republican strategist mike murphy and ron brownstein of the "national journal."
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captions paid for by nbc-universal television good morning. after a weekend of start and stop announcement, news from iran this morning that jailed american sarah surer will be released on $500,000 bail along with shane bower and josh fattal. she's been accused of spying and detained in an iran prison last summer. joining me from des moines, iowa, the president's top political adviser, david axelrod. welcome back to meat meet, mr. axelrod. >> thanks, david. good to be here. >> what about this news from iran? when will she be released and will it happen this time? >> obviously we're hopeful and encouraged by these news but there have been starts and stops in this before and until that actually happens, you know, we're on a wait and see basis. >> as far as bower and fattal and their release, is there any
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progress there? >> you know, david, i won't comment on any of that right now because we're in a sensitive stage here. obviously we're hopeful that we can get these folks out. they should never have been in jail in the first place. they are being held under false pretenses and they should be released. we're working very hard to see that that happens. >> let me turn to politics and the domestic agenda particularly the economy. the president announced plans for some additional infrastructure spending to stimulate the economy. he also would like to give business tax breaks that the corporate world has responded favorably too. should these become law and be passed, what impact could they have by november? >> i don't know that -- the goal is not to have impact by november. the goal is to have impact. and to get this economy moving. i know everyone in washington is looking at the economy through the prism of the election but when people are sitting around
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their kitchen table, they're not looking at the nbc news poll. they're looking at bills they can't pay. they're concerned about their future. they want to know that we have policies that will not only get the economy accelerating in the short run but will lay a foundation for future growth. >> the white house has an economic strategy but the white house is also tactical and it is indeed looking at the november election when you announce some of these policies at a point when most people agree it's not going to get passed by november. david in "the wall street journal" wrote this on wednesday. obamanomics. the president's moves are late. there was ample warning early this year that economic recovery lacked vigor. had these policies been proposed in the screen, congress might have adopted them and the economy would be feeling the lift by now. instead the president looks like he checked the economy off the to do list prematurely and now
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regrets that. response? >> i strongly disagree with that. we've been doing things all along to accelerate this economy earlier in the year we passed a hire act to give tax breaks to those firms who hire unemployed workers. we've been trying for months as you know to pass additional tax breaks for small businesses on top of the aid we've given them and expand lending. that's upheld by politics in the united states senate. we hope we will break the logjam. it's time to stop playing games, a republican said to his own party. we agree with that. we've done things right along to keep this recovery moving in the right direction. we've had eight straight months of positive job growth in the private sector. we need to accelerate that pace and that's the reason the
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president has proposed these additional ideas. we're ready to pass them tomorrow if the republican party in the senate allows it. if they pass the small business tax bill and if they want to move on others, we're ready to go. if they want to wait until after the election, we'll have to wait until after the election. >> when you talk about the economic progress that has or has not been made, there's been critics who have looked at how the president has talked about the economy and we compiled some of what the president has said about the economy going back to last april. let's look at that. >> what you are starting to see is glimmers of hope across the economy. that's why we're turning this economy around. i'm convinced that we can see a light at the end of the tunnel. this month's jobs numbers are a sign that we have begun to put the brakes on this recession. the worst may be behind us. >> here is what the website from the white house tauted earlier in the summer. it was recovery summer as it was
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billed by the white house in campaign across the country as administration kicked off events across the country. here's the economic record which is still quite bleak. 9.6% unemployment. 16 months of straight 9% or higher unemployment. 54,000 jobs lost in august. 14.9 million unemployed. 6.2 million of which are long-term unemployed. and just today in "the new york times" a reminder of the real cost of this. a story that we see as the economy tumbles, numbers of families in shelters rise. you've had a rise in the number of families actually going into homeless shelters. it's a question of the president's rhetoric versus reality. are those things out of sync? >> no, they're not out of sync. obviously in april we were on a slightly greater scheme than we were over the summer because we had a fiscal crisis that took 15% off the stock market and caused businesses to retrench
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further but reality remains that when we talk office, we were losing 800,000 jobs in the month of january when we took over from the last administration. we lost 4 million jobs in the last six months of the last administration. we've had eight months of private sector job growth. we have to accelerate. listen, the hole that this recession created was huge. 8 million people lost their jobs and that's on top of a decade in which the middle class was treading water and there's a lot of pain out there and a lot of -- people are frustrated. they deserve to be frustrated. we're frustrated. we want to move this economy forward more quickly. we would like some cooperation to do it. the real issue since you put this in a political context, the real issue for people this november is going to be what direction do we want to go? the other side and you have pete sessions on your show, head of the congressional campaign committee for the republicans, said we want to go back to the very same agenda we had before
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this president took office. that agenda was a disaster. that agenda turned the clinton surplus into a record deficit of $1.3 trillion. gave free reign to special interest and at the expense of the middle class of the economy led to the greatest economic collapse since the great depression. why would we want to go back to that? >> as a practical matter, when does the economic team think that obama administration economic policies will have a sizable impact on the unemployment rate in this count country? >> david, there was a study that was released just a couple weeks ago by a couple economists, one republican and one democrat, some leading economists in the country that said the things we did not only saved or created 3.5 million jobs, 3.5 million more people are working, but we would have lost -- if we hadn't taken the steps we had taken, we would have lost twice as many jobs as we did during the
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recession. the hole was tremendous. the damage is great. it took ten years to create that problem. >> my question is, when is the expectation that the unemployment rate will come down in a meaningful way? >> well, we're moving toward that with every step that we take. obviously 750,000 new private sector jobs created this year is a start. we need to accelerate that. it will come with growth. that growth will come with steps we've taken and it will come with a revitalization of the middle class which is why of course we want to extend tax cuts for the middle class. >> the fundamental belief of the american people has to be that things are going to get better. this administration said that with the stimulus plan you would have unemployment at 8%. that proved not to be the case. you had some real big bites of the legislative apple with successes. health care reform, financial regulation, a large stimulus plan which the president argued was necessary and yet here we stand the latest nbc news "wall
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street journal" poll disapprove of the president's handling of the economy at 56%. this is more damning. the judgment of whether people are optimistic about the future and here it is from the same poll, will things get better or worse or stay the same? 51% think they'll stay the same or get worse. this was a president, mr. axelrod, who was elected on a promise of transformation of washington and better handling of the economy. isn't the lack of confidence in him on the economy the ultimate judgment that you were trying to avoid? >> no. look, i'm not worried about the judgment of him. i'm worried about moving this economy forward. that's what he's worried about. we walked into something that nobody anticipated. we knew the situation was bad. no one knew how bad it was. it was the greatest downturn since the great depression. and our job since that time is to work day in and day out to move that forward. the economy is growing now instead of shrinking. we're gaining jobs instead of losing them. we have to accelerate that. people are discouraged.
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they have gone through not just a hard recession but for many people they've been treading water for a decade and salaries and wages have flat lined and so on but the answer is to do the array of things that we have to do to invest in our infrastructure, to give business the incentive to grow, to give middle class people money to spend to get our economy moving again and to have the best educated workforce and do things to expand exports and all of the things that we're working on will move this economy forward. of course people are discouraged. it's been a tough time. >> if this is an election -- >> i want to say one thing. >> this is a question about choices. americans have lost confidence in this president's direction to fix the economy. >> listen, you look at your same poll and i've looked at your poll obviously and the thing that people said that made the most uncomfortable candidate was whether they supported the
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economic policies of george w. bush and you listen to -- and policies that existed before this president took office. you listen to what john boehner, the man who would be speaker has said about what he wants to do about the economy. he says he wants to restore those tax cuts for companies that ship our jobs overseas. he wants to cancel the obama tax cuts that were part of the recovery act for the middle class and raise taxes on 110 million families and borrow $700 billion to give millionaires and billionaires another tax cut and add to our deficits and then this morning we read that the lobbying community has rallied to boehner for speaker campaign and spent millions of dollars to go back to writing the rules themselves. they say we don't need to buy access to mr. boehner. we already have that. we want him in power so we're in power. we don't want to go to the same policies and practices that
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drove our economy into a ditch, that punished the middle class and led us to this catastrophe. we have to move forward. >> let me ask you a specific question about this debate about tax cuts. you mentioned leader boehner for the republicans who is saying in an interview that in fact he would support the middle class tax cuts to the extension of which is what the president wants. he said don't hold those hostage. i'm asking if there is any room to compromise with republicans to extend even if it is for two years as your formerly departed budget director called for, those on tax cuts from the bush era. >> if you read carefully what our budget director said, he said he would prefer we didn't move forward on the upper income tax cuts because he doesn't believe they're stimulative and that we can afford it but for political reasons we might have to accept it. let's lay that aside. but mr. boehner -- no one believes that -- they called the last set of tax cuts temporary. they'll continue -- i think we
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have to assume they'll keep pushing this forward. let me make one point clear. what we're proposing is a tax cut for 100% of americans up to $250,000 of their income. if you make under $250,000 you get a tax cut on your income. if you make more than that, you get it up to $250,000. if you're a millionaire, you get what everybody else gets up to $250,000 and not $100,000 a year that mr. boehner wants to give us. we just can't afford it. and really what we ought to do is as the president said agree on the middle class tax cuts. let's not hold them hostage while we debate whether we're going to give this very small number of people at the top a tax cut that we can't afford. >> it was striking to me hearing the president on friday when he talked about the economy and the choice in this election. he did not mention anything in his opening remarks about health care reform, which he and you
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and others have billed as signature achievement of this administration and you said once people know more about health care, the more popular it will become. we see reporting this week in politico that in fact there aren't any democrats who supported this who are out there touting that vote and only those that opposed it are touting it in the election. senator chuck schumer was on the program in march and this is what he said about health care. >> i predict by november those who voted for health care will find it an asset and those who voted against it will find it a liability. >> the opposite has turned out to be true. why has the president failed to win the argument about the benefits of health care reform? >> well, first of all, i don't think health care is driving this election, david. i think the economy is driving this election. people have anxiety about that economy. i tell you -- they don't -- you
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know why we worked on health care? health care is and was a huge problem in this country in terms of the cost of it to people and the government in terms of the relationship between people and their insurance companies. no one wants to go back to a situation where if you have a pre-existing medical condition you can be deprived of coverage. no one wants to go back to a situation where if you get seriously ill you can get thrown off your insurance. seniors don't want to go back to paying more for prescription drugs. no one is calling for that. if the republican party wants to make the argument that that's what we should do, then they should make it openly and honestly. >> this administration made the argument that part of economic recovery was passing health care reform. part of getting the economic fiscal house in order in the government was health care reform but democrats are not campaigning on it because it's so politically toxic. you said that wouldn't be the case and that it would get more popular and not less. >> i think that health care over time is going to become more popular but people are focused on this economy right now.
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they have anxiety about this economy. that's what is driving the vote right now, david. and at the end of the day you mentioned the fiscal, congressional budget office and every objective observer has said this will save a trillion dollars over the course of the next couple of decades or more in budget deficits and that's an important part of it. we have to think long as well as short. >> rahm emanuel, chief of staff, if he were to take some early steps toward raising money looking into it, can he do that with president's blessing while he's still chief of staff? >> i think the president is being clear that rahm is chief of staff and will be focused on his duties as chief of staff. he's looking at it -- he loves the city of chicago. no question about it. he has a hard decision to make because he has a lot of responsibilities here and he
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enjoys working with this president and serves his country in this capacity but he'll make a decision and after he makes his decision he'll make subsequent decisions about when it is appropriate to begin doing that campaigning. >> david axelrod, thank you very much. enjoy the steak fry this afternoon in iowa. >> looking forward to it. thank you. we turn to a republican candidate for the 2008 presidential election and of course the mayor of new york city at the time of the september 11th attacks, rudy giuliani joins me now from 30 rockefeller plaza in the heart of manhattan. mr. mayor, welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning. how are you, david? >> i'm well. thank you. i want to talk about a tumultuous week leading up to the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. as you look at the controversy surrounding what happened, this debate over the mosque and community center in lower manhattan, the threat to burn the koran by a florida pastor, and this anti-muslim sentiment in the country on the ninth
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anniversary, what's happening? what's behind that? >> i can't tell you exactly what's behind it. something like this probably could have happened at any time. these controversies happening right now i don't think are necessarily connected to each other. few have told me four years ago someone wants to put a mosque up near ground zero, i would have told you that 80% of the family members would be very offended by that and very hurt by that for a whole host of reasons having nothing to do with islam phobia but having to do with how they feel this is sacred ground and that a muslim center there would not be appropriate. some place else would be perfectly appropriate. if you told me people would have gotten upset if someone wanted to burn the koran three four years ago, same thing would have been the case. why these things are happening now, they could be connected or unconnected. i analyze them both the same
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way. the imam has a right top put the mosque there. freedom of religion gives him that right. the minister has the right to burn the koran. the same amendment of the constitution gives him that right. the first amendment. in either case, common sense and a real dedication to healing that these men of god would have would tell you not to do that because you hurt too many people. >> you mentioned the imam who wants to burn a community center in lower manhattan who appeared on cnn this week. he issued a warning of sorts about this debate moving forward and its impact. let me play a portion of that. >> if we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse. the headlines in the muslim world will be that islam is under attack. and i'm less concerned about
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radicals in america than i am concerned about radicals in the muslim word. >> can you concerned about that warning? >> i'm concerned about the imam doing that. i think that tactic is not the kind of tactic i would have expected from an imam who is featured as a man of co consilation. he's about being open and transparent about what he's doing and how he's doing it. the bad imam said america is an accessory to september 11th. america has more muslim blood on its hands than vice versa. he can't condemn hamas as a terrorist group and will not be transparent about where he gets money and how he's getting the money and has not been open at all about this and now we have the imam who tells us if he doesn't get his way, there could be significant and dangerous violence. those are very, very strong words and to enter a sort of
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suggestion of a threat into this, i worry about this as the kind of tactics that he pursues. >> you talked in stark terms, however, about moving forward with this community center and mosque saying that if you are in fact committed to being a healer, you don't go forward with a project but if you are a warrior you do. are you actually suggesting that he's a warrior because of his interest in building this? >> i'm suggesting that he seems by his actions to be more interested in confrontation than in healing. actually, if you go on with the rest of the that quote, i was talking about the pope and the issue he faced several years ago with a convent. many people in the jewish community felt it was incensive. popes and nuns would say we'll stay here. we have a right to do that. let's have that confrontation and bring it on. the pope being a man of healing wanting not to make things more painful for those who have had
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too much pain, he said let's pull it back. he has the same choice. the people he's hurting most are the families who have lost loved ones down there. they don't all feel that way but 80% to 90% feel extremely hurt by this and it's making them relive the pain. they should be be the ones to get the most consideration. not the imam, for tnot me, not president, not the mayor. >> let me move to the war against terrorism. you said after 9/11 you said the sooner and faster we find osama bin laden the safer the world is going to be. he still has not been captured. he's an iconic figure for sure. is he more than that? are we not safe after 9/11 until he's captured? >> i would still say the same thing. the fact is that we will not be safe even after he is captured. there's a little more symbolism
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to it now than there would have been then. there was more reality to it then. by that i mean at that time he was much more active and had much more flexibility to conduct a further attack. we've pinned him down a lot more with efforts of the bush and obama administration in this area have been both effective in circling him in but there's a tremendous symbolic value in catching him and bringing justice including his ability to recruit and in any war and however you want to describe this war, it's a different kind of war but it's a war. you capture a significant leader and you have affected the morale of the other side and maybe that's even more exaggerated in a situation like this. >> i want to ask you about america's fight against terrorist. it's out in "the washington post" this morning. i want to put a portion on the screen. let's stop playing into bin laden's hands. the goal of organized terrorist attack is to go to more powerful enemy into a response and over
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the past nine years the u.s. blundered into the 9/11 snare with one overreaction after another. bin laden deserves to be focus but much of what he has achieve swr ed we have done to ourselves. bin laden has watched his relatively tiny and all but unanimous organization turn into the most recognized international franchise since mcdonald's. could any enemy of the united states achieved more with less? how do you respond to that? >> there's a bit of a policy problem for the united states here that if you do you're damned and if you don't your damned. in the period of time when we weren't paying as much attention to bin laden and al qaeda, they were attacking us almost every other year in the '90s culminating in the attack of the
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"uss cole" in which we didn't respond because we weren't clear who the enemy was. since we've had a change in policy, going on offense against islam terrorism which bush began and in the case of afghanistan the obama administration are continuing and at least at home we've been able to avoid a repetition of the september 11th attack which i have to tell you nine years ago today which would have been the day after september 11th when i was still mayor, wi was being briefed we were going to be attacked many times. i can't tell you the reason we haven't been attacked in the way everyone predicted but the big response that ted is talking about is keeping them on defense. i wouldn't pull that away without analyzing it very closely because in my view the more you have islamic extremism on defense, the safer we are. the more you give them room to
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plan, maneuver and work out attacks, the more dangerous we are. >> this is a threat that will be with the united states for a long time but it doesn't have to dominate our foreign policy. do you agree or disagree with that? >> agree completely. this is an enemy, it's a significant enemy, but it's not an enemy like naziism and communism in the sense that it's a worldwide issue. it can create horrible attacks maybe worse than nazis or communism but it's not an all n encomp passing enemy. we have to give attention to issues with asia and africa and issues with europe and south america. we can't have people in south america feeling we're not paying attention to issues in south america because we're concentrated on the terrorism
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issue. that's a real difficult thing for both the bush administration, the obama administration or any administration to carry out. >> i'm glad the president said that. that becomes a warning to this administration, please pay attention to other things with equal force. >> i want to ask you a political economy, an economic question, back in 2004 on this program, this is a comment you made about your republican party. >> the republican party is a much bigger tent than people give it credit for. we have a lot of what i guess you call moderate republicans. >> do you still think that's the case? >> i love when you go back. you can find me saying almost anything. you can probably contradict everything i said on your show at one time in the past. >> do you think republicans as a minority party in washington have acted constructively and responsibly during this president's administration? >> i do. the president gave not much
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choice. the republicans suggested of changes in health care that the president rejected out of hand. i'm pretty conversive with that debate. tort reform. if the president had included tort reform which he took off the table immediately in health care, he probably could have gotten eight to ten republicans on board. >> hold on. that's a big assumption and much bigger debate. my more narrow question is what you said in 2004 holds which is the republican party a big tent party with moderate republicans in its ranks? >> i'm still here. >> do you think the tide has turned in the republican party and it's become something different? >> no. i think the republican party has always had this tension as the democratic party has when you have a group of people that are significantly ideological and then you have other people that are more center right and i think we have a significant number of those and candidates running right now that are easily described that way.
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i think we're as broad a political party if not broader than the political party but in a different spectrum. >> who is the most prominent voice in the republican party? >> john boehner would be the most prevalent voice because he's the one that has the best chance of becoming a national leader in an official way over the next two to three months. >> all right. i have to try to pin you down before you go on this point. the standings are a little tight in the american league east after the yankees dropped a game to the rangers last night. up by half a game over the rays. what's going to happen here, mr. mayor? >> well, i have to confess that my wife went to high school with the manager of the rays so this is an issue in my home. we'll be in the playoffs with them one way or another. we're the winner and they're the wild card or they're the winner and we're the wild card we'll be playing five or seven games with them and i think our experience and our pitching staff and our playoff hardened players like
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we're joined with our rou roundtable. author of "no god but god: the origins, evolution and the future of islam," reza aslan. ron brownstein, republican strategist mike murphy in from l.a. and former clinton white house press secretary be and contributing editor to "vanity fair" dee dee myers. i want to talk politics and the economy but i want to talk 9/11 and this tumultuous week, a surreal week in many ways with the florida pastor and what's going on in lower manhattan. we look at the views of islam in "the washington post" poll unfavorable now at 49%. eclipsing even the unfavorable rating in october of 2001. and you look at the flag burning and some of the reactions we've seen to the debate we've been having here going on in the middle east and afghanistan and

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